Things are a bit busy for much INFOWARSwatching at present butI did hear Alex Jones seemingly extolling the coward, John Wayne, who managed to wriggle out of military service during the Second World War whilst portraying himself as a hero in countless Hollywood war movies.
A bit of a faux pas during the ongoing Ventura/Icke feud, given that David Icke went to great lengths to expose Wayne as the gutless egotist that he was.
Curious that the normally media savvy Jones should have anything but contempt for Wayne.
Friday, 25 November 2011
Sunday, 13 November 2011
MoneyBomb date goes off in Alex Jones' face
During the recent InfoWars MoneyBomb - something akin, during these austere times, to the scrap metal drives of World War II - Alex Jones interviewed Jesse Ventura, former professional wrestler (i.e. phoney wrestler), Governor of the State of Minnesota (ftrom 1999 to 2003) and, dare I say it, former Navy Seal.
The interview took a meandering path between an unsuccessful legal case against the TSA for their invasive search techniques, a mooted 'dream ticket' of Ventura standing as Ron Paul's Vice President and the forthcoming third series of his dumbed down television programme 'Conspiracy Theory'.
At one point, Jones suggested that Ventura should interview David Icke - not least because Icke was due to start a series of speaking engagements in America.
Now, all three of these characters have problems when it comes to credibly putting forward contentious ideas to a population stupefied by idiotic television and junk food.
Jones attempts to pass himself off as a neutral who has transcended the left/right paradigm whilst occupying a near extreme right wing entrenchment. His loud, bullying, egotistical persona is enough to turn any curious intelligent first time listener off. Whilst the issues he covers are of undoubted relevance, his logic has more holes than a string vest.
Ventura, on the other hand, whilst also being loud and egotistical, is a few rungs down on the evolutionary ladder from Jones. Viewers are constantly reminded that he is a former Navy Seal but looking at him it is impossible to forget that he was also the epitome of fake, a professional wrestler. Nothing shines intellectually. His television programme is presented in a typical American fashion, i.e. a ten minute programme puffed out with the help of advertisements and ad nauseam repetition to fill an hour. The point of the programme usually having withered from being reheated half a dozen times before its ultimate damp delivery.
Contrastingly, Icke is extremely sharp and intelligent and witty. Icke's Achilles heal is in the fact that he has a number of times, for whatever reason, gone wildly off course - at least in terms of remaining within a waveband of popular credibility. I have no doubt whatsoever that had it not been for what Icke calls the 'Reptilian Agenda', the views he espouses would be widely acceptable - in spite of the damage his reputation suffered at the hands of Terry Wogan. It is often speculated that the 'Reptilian Agenda' is a device for concealing the truth in plain sight flanked by a discredited fallacy.
But it seems that the Ventura/Icke date arranged by Jones did not go according to expectations, as can be read on David Icke's website:
Jesse Ventura - Pet Detective
During an interview with Jon Ronson for his 2001 series 'Secret Rulers of the World', Jones called Icke 'a turd in a punchbowl' (see video) but has since managed to cosy up to Icke - though he clearly looks uncomfortable whenever he is filmed talking to Icke.
It seems that those who often caution against divide and rule are themselves at the head of it, wittingly or otherwise. The fallouts are like conspiracy gossip - like celebrity gossip but possibly costly.
Conspirity fallouts are nothing new and they provide nothing positive to the pursuit of truth. There will be hardcores of Icke and Ventura fans metaphorically squaring up to each other as I type - as well as some people who will very likely feel that they have to make some kind of choice.
Unfortunately, incidents like this present even more garbage to try to see through but maybe the outcome will be positive if the exercise of digestion helps to separate the nutrients from the shit.
The interview took a meandering path between an unsuccessful legal case against the TSA for their invasive search techniques, a mooted 'dream ticket' of Ventura standing as Ron Paul's Vice President and the forthcoming third series of his dumbed down television programme 'Conspiracy Theory'.
At one point, Jones suggested that Ventura should interview David Icke - not least because Icke was due to start a series of speaking engagements in America.
Now, all three of these characters have problems when it comes to credibly putting forward contentious ideas to a population stupefied by idiotic television and junk food.
Jones attempts to pass himself off as a neutral who has transcended the left/right paradigm whilst occupying a near extreme right wing entrenchment. His loud, bullying, egotistical persona is enough to turn any curious intelligent first time listener off. Whilst the issues he covers are of undoubted relevance, his logic has more holes than a string vest.
Ventura, on the other hand, whilst also being loud and egotistical, is a few rungs down on the evolutionary ladder from Jones. Viewers are constantly reminded that he is a former Navy Seal but looking at him it is impossible to forget that he was also the epitome of fake, a professional wrestler. Nothing shines intellectually. His television programme is presented in a typical American fashion, i.e. a ten minute programme puffed out with the help of advertisements and ad nauseam repetition to fill an hour. The point of the programme usually having withered from being reheated half a dozen times before its ultimate damp delivery.
Contrastingly, Icke is extremely sharp and intelligent and witty. Icke's Achilles heal is in the fact that he has a number of times, for whatever reason, gone wildly off course - at least in terms of remaining within a waveband of popular credibility. I have no doubt whatsoever that had it not been for what Icke calls the 'Reptilian Agenda', the views he espouses would be widely acceptable - in spite of the damage his reputation suffered at the hands of Terry Wogan. It is often speculated that the 'Reptilian Agenda' is a device for concealing the truth in plain sight flanked by a discredited fallacy.
But it seems that the Ventura/Icke date arranged by Jones did not go according to expectations, as can be read on David Icke's website:
Jesse Ventura - Pet Detective
During an interview with Jon Ronson for his 2001 series 'Secret Rulers of the World', Jones called Icke 'a turd in a punchbowl' (see video) but has since managed to cosy up to Icke - though he clearly looks uncomfortable whenever he is filmed talking to Icke.
It seems that those who often caution against divide and rule are themselves at the head of it, wittingly or otherwise. The fallouts are like conspiracy gossip - like celebrity gossip but possibly costly.
Conspirity fallouts are nothing new and they provide nothing positive to the pursuit of truth. There will be hardcores of Icke and Ventura fans metaphorically squaring up to each other as I type - as well as some people who will very likely feel that they have to make some kind of choice.
Unfortunately, incidents like this present even more garbage to try to see through but maybe the outcome will be positive if the exercise of digestion helps to separate the nutrients from the shit.
Wednesday, 2 November 2011
InfoPuppy Yaps at Mail Woman
In today's Daily Mail (2nd November 2011) there is a risible article by freelance journalist, Meghan Keneally, purporting to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement:
Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Unseen 9/11 footage shows WTC Building 7 consumed by fire
The article, as anybody with any interest in 9/11 Truth would immediately realise, does nothing of the sort - it actually proves the anomalies to which the likes of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth - ae911truth.org - have been drawing attention for years.
But InfoPuppy, Paul Joseph Watson, attempts to respond with an article with the lethal precision of a sucker tipped child's bow and arrow:
‘Footage That Kills 9/11 Conspiracy Theories’ Actually Validates Them
In his article, Watson points to Keneally's accusation of 'conspiracy theorists' inventing 'wild claims' having, for the second time, two paragraphs earlier made a wild claim and then goes on to repeat it. He said:
'Keneally goes on to bizarrely claim that the footage proves how “the building’s exterior frame could no longer withstand the high temperatures,” and how the “buckling” of these “exterior metal beams,” “led to floors falling in on one another, causing the building to collapse.'”
'Yes you read that correctly – Keneally is claiming that the structural integrity of modern buildings – the part that prevents them from collapsing – rests on “exterior metal beams”'
Then says:
'If you knew that a building was supported by its “exterior” beams you wouldn’t even dare go inside. The building would never even be approved for construction in the first place.'
And later concludes:
'...Keneally has dreamt up the wildest claim yet – that the structural integrity of modern buildings rests on their exterior beams and window frames.'
Whilst WTC 7 may not have been an external steel framed building, why does Watson ludicrously make such a statement when external steel framed buildings are hardly uncommon.
Anybody familiar with the subject will probably know the point Watson was trying to make but by writing such a badly thought out article he makes himself look like a smart-arsed idiot.
Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Unseen 9/11 footage shows WTC Building 7 consumed by fire
The article, as anybody with any interest in 9/11 Truth would immediately realise, does nothing of the sort - it actually proves the anomalies to which the likes of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth - ae911truth.org - have been drawing attention for years.
But InfoPuppy, Paul Joseph Watson, attempts to respond with an article with the lethal precision of a sucker tipped child's bow and arrow:
‘Footage That Kills 9/11 Conspiracy Theories’ Actually Validates Them
In his article, Watson points to Keneally's accusation of 'conspiracy theorists' inventing 'wild claims' having, for the second time, two paragraphs earlier made a wild claim and then goes on to repeat it. He said:
'Keneally goes on to bizarrely claim that the footage proves how “the building’s exterior frame could no longer withstand the high temperatures,” and how the “buckling” of these “exterior metal beams,” “led to floors falling in on one another, causing the building to collapse.'”
'Yes you read that correctly – Keneally is claiming that the structural integrity of modern buildings – the part that prevents them from collapsing – rests on “exterior metal beams”'
Then says:
'If you knew that a building was supported by its “exterior” beams you wouldn’t even dare go inside. The building would never even be approved for construction in the first place.'
And later concludes:
'...Keneally has dreamt up the wildest claim yet – that the structural integrity of modern buildings rests on their exterior beams and window frames.'
Whilst WTC 7 may not have been an external steel framed building, why does Watson ludicrously make such a statement when external steel framed buildings are hardly uncommon.
Anybody familiar with the subject will probably know the point Watson was trying to make but by writing such a badly thought out article he makes himself look like a smart-arsed idiot.
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